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Meg

Ignoring the obvious irony that you posted a blog entry about this (which you are well aware of, wink wink), I wouldn't post anything that catty about my husband/partner, blogger or otherwise. I guess it works for some of those boring old bloggers, but you're a "humourist" who writes for "actual newspapers," right?

I also wouldn't judge a whole subset of the population according to his lack of boundaries.

It takes nothing away from you for people to enjoy themselves, to communicate with others in a way they find relevant, and to share their own stories as they see fit.

As long as SOMEONE finds it interesting -- as with your own writing -- then it's likely worth their time to put it out there, if only for their own satisfaction.

Everyone who has been blogging or using social networking/media tools for very long knows how ridiculous it is at the same time that it can be fun. Striking a balance is the key... in other words, *being* in the moment as well as *reporting* it (envision finger quotes.)

But if no one wants to read about what other people are up to, why are there more people on Facebook than live in Japan? Why are social networks now the greatest use of time online? Why do people in my life from 16 to 85 find that it gives them joy to chronicle their lives for friends and family and others? It kinda sounds like someone cares, Kate.

The statistics also prove that it's more about connection and fun than self promotion for the vast majority of users -- marketers might be a vocal subset, but they don't define things for everyone else.

If your husband/partner is erring on the side of annoying with this stuff, make some ground rules for your own satisfaction, and then dig into your meal. If he doesn't respect what you want and need, then he's annoying *regardless* of the medium he's using to be annoying.

My future husband and I both have blogs and are active on social networking sites. But when we're together, we're together. When we're with people, we're with those people. I don't spend my time tapping away at my Crackberry, and neither does he.

Essentially? Don't judge all the BBQ by the butt you know.

Rick Mc

http://rickmccharles.com/2009/08/04/no-one-reads-your-stupid-tweets/

I didn't have time to ready your post. But did have time to reply.

Andrea

I'm with Stanley. ]

I like food, so I take pictures of it. You like your kids, so you take pictures of them.

That's cool. Don't rain on my parade.

Mark Busse

I find Kate Zimmerman's dismissal of food bloggers and social media not only distasteful, but confusing.

What is she on about exactly? Food bloggers? Smart mobile devices? Rude people? BBQ? The stupidity of Twitter followers? Her article never really makes a point and fizzles away in self pity and defeat.

If her point was that no one is out there reading blog posts or Twitter tweets, uh, she's wrong. How else did I find this article in the first place? And after I share this with others, I think she may be surprised by the traction it gets. Long tail my ass, this is where marketing and PR takes place these days Kate. Catch up.

Like Rick Mc, I like food—no, I love food—so I take photos of it. I write about my culinary discoveries and adventures online. So do about 30 other food bloggers on our website foodists[dot]ca.

We're passionate about food and share our thoughts, opinions, reviews, tips and rants with hundreds of followers on Twitter—followers who seem genuinely interested and often engage in dialogue and tell us how much they appreciate our efforts.

Oh yeah, did I mentioned none of us are getting paid for it? Zip. We do it because we enjoy it. Imagine that! Like a, what's it called? A hobby! A hobby we share with others who love it too!

Oh yeah, and we too recently held a BBQ workshop with 40 people enjoying instruction by BBQ Champ Ronnie Shewchuk. And we blogged, tweeted and Flickred the heck out of it too! (Google "BBQ Bootcamp" to see for yourself).

The one point I will concede to Kate is that Blackberries and iPhones, and their constant online connection, can lead to rude and unhealthy behaviour. I'm guilty of it too, but that's a separate issue to photographing and writing about food.

The way I see it, Stanley was invited to a restaurant launch party and as much as Kate wanted to chat with her new friend, he had stuff to do. He was there to examine, taste, contemplate, and review the restaurant and its food (as did many others that night judging from the mentioned on Twitter).

It's a shame Ms Zimmerman was offended by Stanley lack of attention, but I don't see why he—or the rest of us—deserved to be so harshly criticized.

What a strange attitude and piece of writing from someone who claims to be an award-winning writer—a writer with her own blog no less—but one who can't tell the difference between a Blackberry or iPhone and "just learned that Flickr was an online photo sharing site".

Perhaps someone this out of touch should learn a bit more before they rant online. And if she wants to be invited to future restaurant launch parties, she might consider sitting at a table without any food bloggers at it.

cj

hmm, odd post considering the food posts written on this blog.

O brave new world that is just that, new.

Let us embrace our idiosyncracies and move on shall we?

http://katezimmerman.typepad.com/kate_of_late/2006/10/bcs_best_restau.html

Mark Busse

Wait a second, is Stanley the food blogger taking photographs or her husband? Or both? Now I'm really confused.

Eagranie

CJ - ahhh, but you see, the article that you refer to was written for an "actual newspaper," which is clearly a more legitimate medium than a lowly blog.

Don't get me wrong. I agree that in some cases, the internet has made mere eaters into food critics, but let's not make sweeping blanket statements. As Mark points out, it isn't clear whether this post - oh, excuse me, *article* - is a rant against rude dining partners, smartphones, Twitter, blogging, or Michael Jackson.

And, as Meg points out, we'll gloss over the irony of writing about how food bloggers suck...and putting it on your (incredibly self-conscious) blog.

I was one of those people at Stanley's barbecue event, tweeting and posting the play-by-play. Stanley was magnificent: a gracious host and brilliant teacher. But your description of him here strikes me as really dismissive and disrespectful. You may have been aiming for sarcastic and sardonic, but it certainly doesn't come across that way.

More than anything, that's what bothers me about this post. Sure, talk about random bloggers and call them out for bad table manners and for being self-absorbed. But to speak about your partner the way that you do? Pity.

Ron Shewchuk

Le Stanley, c'est moi!

Mark, the food blogger Kate mentions is a different guy altogether.

I think Kate is smart and funny, and I love her curmudgeonly stance on social media. She keeps me grounded, and entertained, and when I read her stuff I laugh out loud. And I laugh loudest when she takes the piss out of me.

Didn't anyone notice she pokes fun at herself, too?

There are some great stories by her in my new book, by the way. Have a look -- you'll get a few good laughs, I think.

Jer Thorp

Kate,

From another Foodist - thanks for the great article. I thought it was mostly tongue-in-cheek, nicely self-deprecating, and quite well written.

We food bloggers live in a world of our own, and I think we often deserve to be laughed at. We certainly don't get a free pass on etiquette. As you point out, sometimes we can get so caught up in our bloggerly pursuits that we can end up being anti-social. You have another excellent point:

"Who could possibly be waiting so raptly for an account of the vittles at a bash they weren’t attending that they couldn’t even hold out until the party was over?"

I couldn't agree more. I remember climbing the stairs at Notre Dame in my 20s, behind a pair of tourists who must have taken 300 photos on their way to the top. They were forgoing the sensory experience in order to have a good slide show - something I think a lot of food bloggers can be guilty of.

-Jer


David Murray

Well said, Kate the great:

"I once again told Stanley that there’s an awful lot of broadcast in the social networking universe, but I doubt there’s much reception."

Not much, but some. Which beats none. Which is why we blog. If a tree falls in Facebook, does it rate a "poke"?

Paul Kamon

Like a person who hates surfing getting swept up in a tsunami, Kate, I think you humorously and begrudgingly know the only possible answer is to start swimming, or find a really big boat to cling to, but unfortunately they are sinking too.

Check this article: http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1902604,00.html

Alexandra Gill

The only thing funnier than this post is the indignation of the self-righteous food bloggers who responded. Rock on, Kate!

Jane Mundy

Sounds like some of these food bloggers have another thing in common besides taking foodie pics: they've lost their sense of humour! Lighten up you lot!

Kristen

Amen, amen and amen Alexandra Gill!!!

Oy! When did the whole darn world have it's sense of humour surgically removed?!

Lighten up, indeed!!

Go, Kate go!!!

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